09 Nov Legal Name for Junior
Legally, a person cannot use “Sr.” unless they have gone to court and changed their name because it is not on their birth certificate. In any case, if you choose the Jr, your son should also have your husband`s middle name. The names must be identical for the suffixes to be meaningful. If your husband doesn`t have a middle name, neither should your son. If you want the Jr. Generally, the official name of a person born in the United States is the name given on their U.S. birth certificate (including hyphens and apostrophes), unless the person`s name has changed due to certain events, such as a marriage or a valid court order for a name change. A junior privilege is a privilege that ranks subordinate to another previous privilege. This means that the subordinated lien will not be repaid until the previous privilege has been satisfied. Dom, you`re right. His son will be the second in the family to have the name, but not as the son of the original, so he would be II. If they have different middle names or if one of them does not have a middle name, the names are not identical, so a suffix is not required.
NOTE: For international students (F-1 and M-1), consider the name on Form I-20 as the legal name. For exchange visitors (D-1), consider the name on the DS-2019 as the official name. For more information, see RM 10211.295 and RM 10211.375. This back and forth of the name can also happen later. Let`s say you have a brother. let`s call him Doug. If Doug has a son before you, that child will be Rick V. Their son, born later, will be Rick VI. Of course, there is no name font to enforce tradition or check the logic of how someone names their children! Have the suffixes been changed due to the use of suffixes such as King “Name” The Brave, the Great, the Righteous, etc.? What about the prince who changed his entire name to an ancient king after royalty? Question I am a JR and people have my name as 2nd legally my name is JR not the 2nd right My cotillon classes as a child taught me differently. A II doesn`t need to have exactly the same name as someone. For example, my father`s name was Martin, after his father`s uncle, whose middle name is Martin, and his last name was Martin. Since he had died before my father was born, my father did not need suffix II (although he could have used it if he had wanted to).
If your grandmother is your grandmother through your mother, she would have had a different surname than the newborn after marriage. Your last name will be your mother`s maiden name. In this case, it would not make sense to use the II because your grandmother and newborn have different surnames. Given name(s) = full first name and middle name, each of which may consist of more than one part; and if the legal name changes in any way from father to son. It is not necessary to use sequence post-nominals. Everyone has a unique name. There is no hard and fast rule about what happens to suffixes when the oldest of the name dies. Etiquette expert and humorist Judith Martin, for example, believes they should all ascend.[5] (since Sr.
and subsequent suffixes can be redistributed), but most agree that this is left to individual families. [6] You will almost certainly need to hire a lawyer, preferably a family lawyer with experience in the field, to help you change your name. The preparation of the application and court order and the subsequent conduct of the hearing are matters that are best handled by a lawyer. If the child`s name is written entirely as “JUNIOR” and needs to be changed to an abbreviation “JR.” and vice versa, the correct petition should be a petition for CFN. I am a first pregnant woman and we want to name our future son after his father (who is still alive). So it would be “wrong” if we used II even if we prefer it to Jr? Is there also a period that comes after Jr.? Example: John Smith Jr. Since then, on all legal documents or whenever he signs his name, he uses his full name, including the middle initial and suffix III, to distinguish himself from his father. I named my son after me and his suffix is II. You shouldn`t tell people they can`t.
There is no law for that. I want to name my son after me, but I don`t want to use Jr, I want to use II, is that okay? JUNIOR. Younger. 2. It was believed that this was not a part of a man`s name, but an addition by usage and a convenient distinction between a father and a son of the same name. 10 Mass. R. 203 10 Paige, 170; 1 selection. R. 388; 7 John. il. 549; 2 Caines, 164 1 choice.
388 15 selection. 7; 17 selection. 200 3 Metc. 330. 3. Any question that distinguishes people eliminates the need to add junior or senior. 1 mod. ENT. 15 years Salk.
7. But if the father and son both have the same name, the father must prima facie be intended, unless younger is added, or some other question of distinction. Salk, 7; 6 Rep. 20 11 Rep. 39; Hops. 330. If the father and son have the same surname and the same addition and the former continues the latter, the application is separable unless the son has the additional addition of junior or the younger. However, if the father is the defendant and the son is the plaintiff, there is no need to add the elder or eldest in the father`s name.
2 falcons. 187; Laws of Women, 380. Think of it this way: suppose Bob lives near the bridge and another Bob moves on the farm road. Until the new guy came along, Bob was just Bob and everyone knew who Bob was. When the new Bob arrived in town, people had to explain in conversation what was what. They could have named a Bob Bridge and a Bob Farmer. If Bob Bridge has a son who grows up and lives with his father on the bridge and starts working/living in the village, there would be two Bob Bridges. It`s just as confusing as when Bob Farmer came to town, so somehow the suffix system was created so that young Bob Bridge became Bob Jr. This is a stupid example, but you can see how even those far from royalty can end up with confusing names.
Toya, you weren`t “wrong.” What you did was not traditional at worst. The suffix II implies an identical name, but no direct descendants. In other words, IIs are usually the nephews or grandchildren of the person who got the name first. Jr is the only suffix that implies direct descent. All others from II onwards could be indirect. The only people who might care about your non-traditional choice would be genealogists hundreds of years from now, and even then, in this century, we leave paper trails in our lives for so long that these potential genealogists would have to be idiots to be confused. My best for you. The information in this column is not intended to provide legal advice, but is intended for a general understanding of the law. Readers with legal questions, including those whose questions are discussed here, should seek advice from lawyers about their particular situation.
Now I have exactly my father`s name. That makes me a Jr. But I could TECHNICALLY call myself II because I was also named after someone who is not directly related to me. Sr., Jr., etc. After a name, suffixes are not part of the legal name unless they appeared on their birth certificate or legally changed their name to include it. Damn it. When I look back, after all this time, I realize that I never fully answered the question. The suffix II is only used when a child is born into a family and given a name identical to that of a person who is not the child`s father. For example, John Q.
Smith named his first son John Q. Smith Jr., and his second after his childless brother Robert F. Smith. The child would be Robert F. Smith, II. The fun of genealogy begins when someone calls a child out of order. Robert`s first son would be Robert F. Smith Jr. Then we skip a generation.
The first child born to Robert, II, or Robert Jr. becomes Robert F. Smith, III. If Robert, Jr. the first is to become the father of a boy and name his son Robert, III, then Robert, He has a son, the son of Robert, He becomes Robert, IV. These days, it`s less likely that three generations of a family will continue to live in a close-knit community, but that wasn`t the case 100 years ago, when you`re more likely to see this unusual situation. This could go on so that Robert, Robert`s son, could be V. Number three could be the father of number five and number four could be the father of number six. On the other hand, if you call the baby by the same name but change the middle name, maybe keeping the same initial, that could be very, very cool.
For example, William Jefferson Clinton and William Johnson Clinton. Philippine naming conventions organize names as follows: [personal name(s)] [paternal surname] [father`s surname]. For example, Jose Mario BELLO PINEDA (male) and Maria CRUZ SANTOS (female). The “personal name” (or “first name”) is chosen at birth as the personal identifier of the person. Andrew, I have to give it to you, you are a very patient man. I enjoyed this thread and learned a few things at the same time. I now come to my question. If a woman marries and takes her husband`s name, does her birth certificate also change so that her new name is her official name? Thank you, Mike IIs are quite rare and he will have many opportunities to talk about sharing his name with his father.